Recap: #ECRchat on managing career expectations, 9 May 2013

Last week’s live chat was hosted by Liz Gloyn. Liz is a Teaching Fellow in Latin Literature at the University of Birmingham; her research interests focus on the intersections between classical Latin literature, ancient philosophy and gender studies. She can be found on Twitter as @lizgloyn, and blogs at Classically Inclined. Here is her recap of the chat.

The #ECRchat that I hosted last week started off with a poll full of options about professional development for the early career researcher, and it ended in a tie for topics, which I don’t think has ever happened before! As I’d done more thought about managing career expectations, we went with that; learning and developing leadership skills will be the topic of a future chat.

Managing career expectations was a topic I wanted to look at because there is often a tendency for ECRs to think about this as an internally-focused process, where one adjusts one’s own expectations of what might happen in the future. However, in the business world, managing expectations is all about how you relate to other people, both customers and colleagues, rather than some kind of self-policing mechanism. I wanted to see what happened if we applied this idea to the ECR sphere, whether it could be helpful for us to think with, and what insights considering the idea of managing expectations would generate.

We started the chat by thinking about what managing expectations is, and where those expectations come from. The idea of the disconnect between the ideal and the reality felt like a central part of this, as did the way that expectation gaps create disappointment. People felt there was a fine balance between aiming high and accepting the realities of one’s situation

- including, perhaps, that certain things just wouldn’t work for you as an individual. Digging a bit deeper, we identified plenty of places where expectations come from – the job specification, your department, your university, disciplinary norms, ourselves, our families, the norms of

(senior) colleagues, search committees, your PhD supervisor, funding bodies, and students. Being aware that expectations sometimes come from outside, and that this means we have the power to decide whether we want to sign up to them, seemed an important take-home point here.

After thinking about where expectations come from, we considered how we might find out what those expectations are before it’s too late to engage with them. There were lots of possibilities – considering the needs of the stakeholders in your projects, for example, or talking to colleagues to work out how the expectations of you on paper might play out in practice.

The key message which came from this section of the chat was the importance of communication to make sure that you knew what people were after, and could adjust your behaviour accordingly. This also held true when we thought about how to go about managing those expectations – honesty, clarity, straightforwardness and a dose of humour seemed the sensible way to go! Participants also flagged up the importance of being willing to say ‘no’ if an expectation was genuinely at odds with other things which also needed doing. It felt as if some personal thought was needed here too, to work out what your career priorities were and how they fitted into the expectations of the institution, so you could balance the two accordingly – but it felt very difficult to make a satisfying plan without knowing the shape of all these jigsaw pieces.

We closed by thinking about how we might use expectations for our advantage rather than as coercion. Some suggestions including making sure that we know expectations so we can show how we are meeting them during performance reviews; using them to gain opportunities that might not otherwise be available; making them a tool to point out where your potential isn’t being fully developed or used; and using them as part of the networking process to discover more about your field and what’s going on in it.

If you’d like to read more from the chat, the Storified tweets are here.

What should the #ECRchat topic for May 9th 2013 be?

This chat will be hosted by Liz Gloyn.

Recap: #ECRchat on how to deal with stress and anxiety, 25 April 2013

This chat was hosted by Emily T Murray, a soon to be Research Fellow in medical statistics/epidemiology at St George’s University of London.  She can be found on Twitter as @emilytmurray.  Here is her recap of the chat.

For the #ECRchat of 25th April I agreed to host a discussion on ‘How to deal with stress and anxiety’.  What immediately became apparent in the chat was the amount of stress and anxiety that ECR’s are experiencing from a lack of stability in the job market, mostly from short term contracts.  There was also much discussion of the pressure to publish and build a research career, but uncertainty in how to do that or whether they were going about it in the right way.

When asked how ECR’s deal with the stress, most mentioned spending time with friends and family, developing support networks, being organized, exercise, relaxation time, and healthy food (including the odd glass of wine).   In the end there was no holy grail of ‘stress-busting’ but talking to other ECR’s on Twitter and realizing we have a lot of the same anxieties somehow made it a little more manageable.

As usual, there were far too many tweets and side-conversations to summarize the whole thing, but you can see the entire chat here on storify.

Emily.

Recap: #ECRchat on Suppressing perfectionism and impostor syndrome, 11 April 2013

This chat was hosted by Nikola Bowden, a NH&MRC training (post-doctoral) fellow at the University of Newcastle, Australia. Nikola is 6 years post-PhD and has had 3 children since PhD, currently working part-time. Her research focuses on understanding DNA repair in melanoma particularly in response to sunlight and chemotherapy. Nikola currently supervises 4 PhD students, a Post-Doc and a Research Assistant and has an interest in science & research advocacy, particularly ECRs and women in science.

Please note that there is no storify of this chat.

The topic of #ECRChat on April 11 was an exact fit for where I am at the moment in my career, trying to suppress imposter syndrome and suffering from constant almost crippling perfectionism when it comes to preparing manuscripts. After it won convincingly in the vote I was a little surprised to know that many other ECRs felt the same. I came up with a long lists of questions to ask on #ECRChat but as the conversation fired up most were unknowingly answered.

Here is my recap of the very fast & furious #ECRChat on suppressing perfectionism and imposter syndrome:

Q1: Do you think you suffer from perfectionism?

I wanted to gauge if we all recognise perfectionism in ourselves. Overwhelmingly the answer was yes, but it was comforting to hear it eases with experience over time.

Charlotte Mathieson ‏@cemathieson11 Apr #ecrchat Q.1 yes, by nature a perfectionist but I think increasingly less so as the years go on!

Beth Hellen ‏@PhdGeek11 Apr #ECRchat actually don’t think I really do, quite happy to leave it as good enough. Get more perfectionist as I get older though.

Jessica Sage ‏@Jessisreading8011 Apr Perfectionism imbues you with many qualities but at its extreme is crippling to productivity. S/times ‘good enough’ is good enough. #ecrchat

Olan Scott ‏@OlanScott11 Apr A1: I am learning to let go and not worry about being perfect, but to be satisfied with what is #ecrchat

Hazel Ferguson ‏@snarkyphd11 Apr #ecrchat A1. Sometimes perfectionism creeps in but mostly think I’m pretty realistic about what is possible these days.

Hazel Ferguson ‏@snarkyphd11 Apr.@nikolabowden definitely learned to be realistic through PhD completion, still struggle when I’m moving into unfamiliar topics. #ECRChat

Nicholas Jackson ‏@njj411 Apr On perfectionism: a friend advises “don’t let the best be the enemy of the good”. (Also “better a live donkey than a dead lion”.) #ecrchat

Kylie Budge ‏@kyliebudge11 Apr @nikolabowden I like ‘done is better than perfection’ expression. #ecrchat

Deborah Brian ‏@deborahbrian11 Apr Perfectionists don’t always produce ‘perfect’ work – sometimes it is the source of procrastination and other anxieties, too. #ecrchat

Marin R Sullivan ‏@MarinRSullivan11 Apr @deborahbrian #ECRchat I completely agree about perfectionism often leading to procrastination instead

Marguerite Galea ‏@MVEG00111 Apr @MarinRSullivan @deborahbrian This is a real issue & negatively impact productivity. Has to be nipped in the bud ASAP. #ECRchat

Deborah Brian ‏@deborahbrian11 Apr @MVEG001 @MarinRSullivan best strategies for reducing perfectionism-related procrastination? #ecrchat

Marin R Sullivan ‏@MarinRSullivan11 Apr @deborahbrian @mveg001 I think as simple as it sounds just getting down to the nitty gritty and just write!

Marguerite Galea ‏@MVEG00111 Apr @MarinRSullivan @deborahbrian Deadlines, strong discipline only way to go. Reward yourself when you get it right. Forgive yourself if not.

Deborah Brian ‏@deborahbrian11 Apr @MVEG001 @marinrsullivan yes, I think ‘just do it’ is useful, but if I start making heavy deadlines etc, it can compound the problem 1/2

Deborah Brian ‏@deborahbrian11 Apr @MVEG001 @marinrsullivan Rather, I find breaking it down into small achievable chunks, I can trick myself into productivity again. #ymmv

Nikola Bowden @nikolabowden11 Apr #ECRChat “Selective perfectionism” sounds like it might be my take home message tonight!!

Question 2 lead on from the idea that on some level we are all perfectionists, but some deal with it much better than others. I was hoping for some killer advice on how to overcome “perfection anxiety”. #ECRchat delivered.

Q2. Any advice for how to deal with the anxiety for us perfectionists?

Peter Tennant ‏@Peter_Tennant11 Apr #ECRchat Q2) I think key is to learn to trust your abilities, & remember that your work does not define you! Easier said than done of course

Tseen Khoo ‏@tseenster11 Apr So, better to submit a good paper more quickly, then respond to f’back/revision + get publication. #ecrchat

Nikola Bowden @nikolabowden11 Apr #ECRChat deadlines, trusting in your ability and ‘letting it go’ was the best advice offered!

A question that arose throughout the answers to Q1 and Q2 then followed. It was not in my plan but like most others I wanted answers to this one too.

Q3: best strategies for reducing perfectionism-related procrastination?

Dr Eva Alisic ‏@EvaAlisic11 Apr Q3: set deadlines with colleagues… have a bet with my office mate; if I submit 2 papers by end May, she’ll pay dinner :-) #ecrchat

Kira Clarke ‏@KiraVClarke11 Apr @nikolabowden A3 If endlessly reworking a paper, sending to some1 to read breaks the cycle. Even if just partner/friend/family. #ecrchat

Peter Tennant ‏@Peter_Tennant11 Apr #ECRChat Q3: I deliberately send my co-authors early drafts & leave them to clean up the mess, stops me getting bogged down in minor issues.

The ECRChat was so frantic I was struggling to keep up and we were running out of time so the final question changed tack slightly but addressed the other main issue of the evening….the dreaded imposter syndrome.

Q4: Do you think you suffer from Imposter Syndrome?

Marguerite Galea ‏@MVEG00111 Apr @nikolabowden Ok, throwing spanner in here: ‘no’, not that badly. Not arrogance, just a certain degree of confidence (over time). #ECRchat

Jessica Sage ‏@Jessisreading8011 Apr A4 Supervisor advice again: you have to believe your work is amazing otherwise who else will (& if they don’t they’re wrong!) #ECRchat

Jackie Kirkham ‏@JackieKirkham11 Apr @nikolabowden just remember other ppl *do* think I’m good enough – I respect them, why do I disbelieve this? Let go of the angst

Dr Eva Alisic ‏@EvaAlisic11 Apr So in the ‘brag file’ go all the emails/docs where people thank you, compliments etc #ecrchat

Jodie Bradby ‏@Beidoj11 Apr Having not traveled much over the past few years (kids) I find my imposter syndrome growing. Talking to community v important #ECRchat

Not many #ECRChat participants confessed to suffering from imposter syndrome but there was some fantastic advice offered. Imposter syndrome seems to lessen with experience and the more senior you are. Keeping in touch with the research community during/after extended leave seems to also help.

Some of us finished off the #ECRChat with a pact to submit that paper we have been relentlessly re-writing in the pursuit of perfection. #Bucketdate is May 31st so if you have a paper you have been holding onto for too long join is and SUBMIT IT!

Nikola.

What should the #ECRchat topic for April 11th 2013 be?

This chat will be hosted by Nikola Bowden on Thursday 11th April 2013. UK chat time 11:00-12:00 (BST); Europe chat time 12:00-13:00 (CEST); Australia chat time 20:00-21:00 (EDT).

The healthy working topics seemed to strike a chord last time, so we are polling a few more of them this week. Pick your favourite

Let us know if there is an important topic you think we have missed, or if you would like to host a chat in the future!